The concept for consideration on this page, is, should the church have the ability to pass laws for the nation? I take issue with something that is based in "supposition," and not fact. The "supposition" is, that the "perceived" church is a totally moral entity. Assuming a church, having leaders capable of leading an exemplary life, and the mental acumen to know what is good for the rest of society.

My perception is, the only man ever able to live that good a life, was crucified for it, by the very people who were supposed to be doing it. The religious leaders of the day were the ones who turned Jesus over to the croud, with shouts of "crucify him" ringing in their ears.

Consequently, having shunned the only recorded example of perfect moral behaviour, we have a long way to go, as regards telling others how to live morally.

I have a problem with the concept of even entertaining the idea of letting "church people" loose with the power of government. Self-righteousness is a very heady wine, tending to make those in power, inebriated, intoxicated, drunk.

And like all drunkards, they will be in denial, dis-associating themselves from all the evils which come from allowing such a course of action. Man will most certainly have a tendency to consider "self" as some sort of standard, suitable for public consumption, and even though he may have a bit of decency in his life, certainly can not speak for God.

Hebrews 1:1-2 tells us that God used to speak to man theough the prophets, but now speaks to us by his son. However, the very Son of God, himself, turned down the offer, when given to him, of all the governments (kingdoms) of the earth, upon the occasion of the temptation in the desert.

Mat 4:8-10 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

Jesus shows not only the proper attitude toward such a concept, he also shows the true source of such. It was the Devil, Satan, who first dreamed up the idea, and his offer was immediately inspected, corrected and rejected.

10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Hezekiah prayed long ago, the proper relationship men should have to God; In 2 Kings 19:19 "Now therefore, O LORD our God, I beseech thee, save thou us out of his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD God, even thou only.

All the kingdoms of men should recognize the supreme ruler of the universe, and worship him alone, through Jesus Christ, and not through other men. Jesus Christ wished it so, why do not his followers keep to the pattern given by the master, himself.